Most have heard about 12 Step Programs, but those who have never been through one themselves may not be familiar with the specifics. In this video, we go step-by-step through the twelve steps of the original Alcoholics Anonymous program.
They are as follows:
Step One - We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
Step Two - Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
Step Three - Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we
understood Him.
Step Four - Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Step Five - Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
Step Six - Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
Step Seven - Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
Step Eight - Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
Step Nine - Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
Step ten - Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
Step eleven - Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His Will for us and the power to carry that out.
Step Twelve - Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
My first internship as a therapist was at a counseling center for self-identified Alcoholics and codependents & found the system worked very well for them. I don't have an opinion about it, except that I think it is essential to support the client/patient in their ethical steps to Self Grow.
Thank you for this video.
I am a member of a Recovery program, and I personally KNOW HOW they work.
A 12-step Recovery program is a persons greatest hope for recovery. The 12 Step Fellowship is of a "spiritual" -NOT RELIGIOUS- nature. Spirituality within the Fellowship is defined as behaviors, thoughts, and attitudes in a manner, in which we acknowledge a power greater than ourselves.. The IMPORTANT fact is that we receive this assistance when we call upon it.
We soon discover that the swiftest way to obtain love is to give it. We learn to forgive ourselves, and others.
We realize that if we pursue our inner source of strength we can unearth the energy power of our spirit and then nothing is impossible. By living one day at a time we gain experience, strength and hope to face life on life's terms. . Changing is a process that starts with the mind, then enters the SOUL, and comes forth through our decisions.
So now it goes back to the beginning.... H.O.W.? must be HONEST , OPEN-MINDED and WILLING.
yes, there are lots of wonderful 12 step programs and they are a wonderful place to get help and support and meet other people that you have things in common with. There are lots of different ones out there.
Wonderful stuff. While I have heard of the 12 step program all my life, I never knew the steps until this video. I have already saved the link and sent the link to several friends with addictions.
Allen Farrish
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Sorry.
Ive made a mess of the posts.
What happened was the posts got interchanged,,now Im left bafled and confused about how to delete some of my posts and thereby present a coherent view of what Im trying to share !!!
thanks David,,God Bless you.
2. Now accept that life has become unmanageable. This will first of all involve identifying thoughts,feelings and actions that make life unmanageable.
Then plan on adopting behaviour that is opposite of the unmanageable ones. Now put tha plan into action.
That in effect may work for the atheist.
Thereby one is relieved of the need to believe in a Principle which is not in line with ones personal convictions. Therefore one can assuredly claim that an atheist addict has every right to recover,,inspite of not believing in the God Principle.
The fundamental underpinning of the Steps is sharing and caring,,with any addict.
Tolerance for each others beliefs and a live and let live policy will certainly convince even the most doubtful,,,because then we are living it.
IMHO Basically ,the rest of the 12 Steps are extensions of second part of the 1st Step. Therefore I am certain that this can work.After all,,open mindedness is basically a very scientific Principle.
Remember what Bill said is the essence of scientific inquiry?
"Search and research ,again and again,always with the open mind !!!"
If one considers that the rest of the Steps are nothing but an "unpacking" of the second part of the 1st Step, then the complete benefits of the 12 Steps can be obtained by thoroughly working on the unmanageablity part.
Inspite of this many atheists will not be convinced.
So I suggest that they can use another approach and it is as follows=
Take Step 1 in two parts.
1.Admit we were powerless over addiction. Then do the following exercise= what is your understanding of addiction without of drugs.
To aid in that understanding begin by quoting from three different sources from NA literature. Read available NA literature and quote references.
Next quote three sources from non NA literature; like literature on addiction psychology, deaddiction,counselling etc. Psychiatric literature can be referred to also.
After this , find out from three NA members what they understand of the nature of addiction without drugs. Finally understand ?
That brings us to the end of the first exercise.
2. Now accept that life has become unmanageable. This will first of all involve identifying thoughts,feelings and actions that make life unmanageable.
Then plan on adopting behaviour that is opposite of the unmanageable ones. Now put tha plan into action.
That in effect may work for the atheist.
IMHO Basically ,the rest of the 12 Steps are extensions of second part of the 1st Step. Therefore I am certain that this can work.After all,,open mindedness is basically a very scientific Principle.
Remember what Bill said is the essence of scientific inquiry?
"Search and research ,again and again,always with the open mind !!!"
Inspite of this many atheists will not be convinced.
So I suggest that they can use another approach and it is as follows=
Take Step 1 in two parts.
1.Admit we were powerless over addiction. Then do the following exercise= what is your understanding of addiction without of drugs.
To aid in that understanding begin by quoting from three different sources from NA literature. Read available NA literature and quote references.
Next quote three sources from non NA literature; like literature on addiction psychology, deaddiction,counselling etc. Psychiatric literature can be referred to also.
After this , find out from three NA members what they understand of the nature of addiction without drugs. Finally understand ?
That brings us to the end of the first exercise
I am a recovering addict, very active in NA for 6 years. Your video is rife with misinformation. I'm an agnostic. I was never turned away from any 12 step program and the 12 steps are not a religious program, it is a spiritual one. The fourth step is much more than looking at everything I've done wrong. It also looks at my assets, reveals patterns. I agree with Skip. If you are going to speak, with authority, on topics you know little to nothing about, you might want to at least read the Big Book and the Basic Text of NA.
Message from David Riklan about this 12 Step Video.
Thanks for watching and commenting on the 12 Step Video. Your feedback and interest is greatly appreciated.
Many people have commented that I was incorrect in characterizing 12 Step Programs as religious. Most people are saying they are "Spiritual" and not religious. I have heard and read both sides of this argument. I would love to get more feedback from others. Here are some references to different views. What do you think?
AA offers recovery, not religion
Is AA a Religious Organization
Judge Rules A.A. Religious
A.A. Illegally and Immorally Coerces People Into Joining the AA Religion
Thank you David for being such a wonderful resource and opening the discussion to different points of view. What I found through my experience in Gamblers Anonymous was that whether one calls it spiritual or religious, that part came from me. The princples of honesty, open mindedness and willingness to change are principles that I use in my everyday life.
Helping people in 12 step programs can have unexpected benefits. Working with NA when I was shiatsu training led me to a group of people desperately trying to cope with addiction. They found the healing art of zen shiatsu cheaper than cocaine and just as addictive, but without the side effects. I built up my first shiatsu practice with these wonderful people and their friends and relatives. Thanks David. http://www.learn-shiatsu.co.uk
As with any self help program, it works when you work it.
When people are ready to change, they do.
Until then they make excuses. When realization comes that the excuses are not working, they turn to change. This is when the magic happens.
Good video.. thank you for sharing it.
Blessings,
Donna
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David, You are a very influential person, and people would listen to your opinion on almost any subject. I greatly appreciate your videos and writings in the areas of your expertise. I'm curious why you would choose to make a video on a subject that you appear to have no personal experience with, and no particular expertise.
Thanks for the feedback. I created a video on 12 Step Programs because they are an important part of the support culture for people looking to change their lives. I make it clear in the beginning of the video that I don't have any personal experience with 12 Step Programs, but was sharing information that I've learned from others. Many people have shared their strong belief in the power of 12 Step Programs like AA, but not all people share that opinion. Many people believe it is spiritual, but others say it is religous. I wanted to get the discussion started.
All good and on the mark comments. My dad has been a 12 stepper and has integrated the tools I've shared with him about energy and healing along with that program. He's loves to use the tools as it takes him to a higher place and more inner peace. To get beyond the 12 steps and work on the 12 chakras associated with the 12 steps then on to Mastering Your Energy Mastering Your Life check out the weekly radio program at www.SheevaunMoran.com and click on the radio program button.
Hello everyone,
I agree with those who have commented that David's overview of AA reflects a misunderstanding of the spiritual nature of the 12 Step Programs. In my experience anyone, be he/she agnostic, atheist, or whatever, can recover in the 12 Step programs, if he/she approaches the Program with openmindedness and willingness. I myself, when first attending AA, was positioned somewhere between being an agnostic or an atheist, and rejected AA for quite some time until the pain and losses from my alcoholism drove me back with an open mind and willingness to seek a source of spiritual strength. I have been sober over 31 years and continue to attend AA and use the spiritual principles I have found there. Jan Williams, AlcoholDrugSOS Services, LLC.
With so many people facing debt problems right now, Debtor's Anonymous (DA) can be an excellent 12 Step resource. I haven't been through the program, but have spoken with people who found it helpful and am including it in my forthcoming book Reduce Debt, Reduce Stress. DA offers some very compelling stories and resources on their website as well. I know DA is very private...if anyone reading who has benefitted from their program and would like to share their story (anonymously of course), I would love to share it with my readers!
I'm Deaf and cannot hear the video, perhaps someone could provide a transcript. I did read lips enough to know that the speaker is not an alcoholic. We call them "earth people". The fifth chapter, "How it works" of the "Big Book" is where the 12 steps are. (Chapter 4 BTW is written to the agnostics so that they would not be excluded) It doesn't really say "how it works" it says what to do to make it work. What works, works in the spiritual realm. Spiritual laws apply whether we are aware of them or not. If AA resembles a religion, it resembles Taoism most. Lao Tzu might have said "If you want what we have (enlightenment) then you will do what we do."
The AA program was originally a Christian Fellowship that was comprised of 5 steps if you will of "How it worked"-1.Abstinence 2. Reliance on the Creator 3. Obedience to God's will 4. Growth in Fellowship with the Heavenly Father 5. Intensive help for other alcoholics. At that time the early AA's followed what was known as the Four Absolutes of Jesus Christ; which were 1. Truth 2.Unselfishness 3. Purity 4. Love The "Big Book" which contains the 12 steps was not published until 4 years after AA began as a Christian Fellowship. The Big Book was mostly authored by Bill W and Hank P AKA AA #5, and the 12 Steps were derived from th 28 principles of the Oxford Group. Over time, it has become a popular notion that "anything" can be your Higher Power - my answer to that is if that works for you - good luck. The principles set forth in the Big Book are from The Bible - 1 Corinthians 13, The Sermon on the Mount (Mark) and the Book of James.
Blessings of Love to all here. I wanted to stop by and say I agree with Skip Sams on the issue of AA being a spiritual program not a Religious program! AA help me manifest the best for myself and live a sober and happier life. My higher power,( which I choose to call God)is my believe, but there are many,many people in AA that are agnostic or atheist as well. It doesnt really matter what religious believes you have, no one in AA is there to judge, only to help another Alcoholic by sharing there experience, strength and hope in living a sober happy life! I really hope you change that info on the video.
Robyn, Thank you for sharing your experience, strength and hope! Blessings and love in your continued journey in recovery. ~ Nancy
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The 12 step program is good, but many a times one loses one's way during the program and have to start all over again. But a lot can up used up and with practice it can become a part of our daily lives.
Raj
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Raj,Absolutely, I have been learning that the 12 steps are in order for a reason. As in most lessons in life, sometimes we need to go back and review. A wonderful journey!
Blessings ~ Nancy
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Hi David,
Thank you for your overview of the 12 steps. Through this program, my life has totally transformed. I have been learning that these very same 12 steps may be applied in all areas of my life (business, personal and spititual). Steps to success! My addiction does not define who I am today, it is a process and journey.
Blessings ~ Nancy Adler
www.GamblingOnLife.com
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Gambling-On-Life
http://recoveryaudio.podomatic.com/entry/2009-01-25T14_42_46-08_00
A few comments:
In AA they talk about: "...We deal with alcohol: cunning,baffling and powerful." To ascribe these characteristics to a molecule is to relieve one of responsibility for their own actions. Molecules cannot possess these attributes! It is our own Mind (habitual thinking, etc.)that is baffling to us! Until one sees this little real change can occur.
The idea that Alcoholism is a "disease" was first proposed by "Dr. Bob* to "Bill W." as a means of relieving guilt in
Newcomers. Neither of them ever actually believed in the "medical model" of Alcoholism. (this anecdote is from an "Old Timer" I knew as a patient 25 years ago, who knew Bill W. personally)
DoctorChuck
"It is said in the “Big Book” (AA, 1936) that alcohol “is cunning, baffling and powerful” and it is really our ego that is cunning, baffling and powerful, alcohol is just a chemical."
"What are we free from? We are free from the thoughts that have caused low vibrational energy and negative feelings that aren’t pleasant to experience. The cause of those thoughts is our ego. We are free of our ego running our life. Our ego very much wants control of our life back and will be cunning, baffling and powerful in getting it back. Our ego will also be quick to respond and will be bringing up thoughts that cause low vibrational energy for it to feed upon."
Quotes from How It Works. The entire process of the twelve steps is getting the ego aside so that the spirit can be active.
Charles, It has been my experience through recovery that when I changed my thinking and took responsibility for my choices that is when everything changed. Forgiving myself was key. Here is an interview I did recently. http://recoveryaudio.podomatic.com/player/web/2009-01-25T14_42_46-08_00
I appreciate the spirit in which this video was made but I would have to the people who commented before. I suggest you consult with people who are in the program and then re-post this video in order to give an accurate view of this wonderful program.
I watched the rest of the video and I'm disappointed that you didn't take the opportunity to consult with someone who knows the 12 step program first hand. Again, This is a SPIRITUAL, NOT RELIGIOUS program. Also, you mention that addicts must control their behavior . . . its when addicts try to control their behavior that they continue to use. In another spot, you say something like its not the addict trying to improve him or herself, but always asking God to improve them. Simply put, God helps the addict improve him or herself. However, this is my interpretation of how God works in my life. EVERY PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING OF THIS POWER.
I know you are well intentioned, as I have stated before. However, your video does not represent the true Spirit of the 12 steps.
Skip, Great Post, a spiritual program indeed! When I first began my Program with GA, the most important thing was that I made it to the meeting. My faith was strong, it was the faith in myself that I had lost. That is no longer the case. It takes an incredible amount of courage to get to those first few meetings especially. My concern here is that someone suffering with addiction would not attend a meeting if they believed that it was a 'rule' that one had to believe in God.
Meetings make it! Blessings ~ Nancy Adler
www.GamblingOnLife.com
http://recoveryaudio.podomatic.com/entry/2009-01-25T14_42_46-08_00
I understand you are well intentioned, however, I must ask that you revisit posting it as it is now. I only listened through your summary of step 2 & 3 and had to stop. Your statement about anyone who is atheist/agnostic being turned away & that this program is not for them is simply MISINFORMATION.
There are many atheist/agnostics working the 12 steps! AA has a whole chapter in its Big Book that devoted to atheist and agnostics. Some 12 step groups have revised the 3rd step to say “a God of our understanding”. The Power in the steps is that each member understands God in their own way. My own thought is that God is a Power, not an image.
Some use the group as the Power Greater than themselves. Being part of it, they find connection where before they felt discarded. THIS IS A SPIRITUAL, NOT RELIGIOUS PROGRAM!
Please have someone who is educated on the 12 steps remake this video or at least consult with them. This video may keep some people from finding help they need.
Kevin, I would love to share my experience, strength and hope I have gained through a 12 Step Program. It transformed my life. Please e-mail me a couple times that work best for you to speak within the next couple days.
nancy@GamblingOnLife.com
Blessings ~ Nancy Adler
www.GamblingOnLife.com
www.blogtalkradio.com/Gambling-On-Life
Funnily enough,,many of us have been agnostic,,me included. But the attraction of this method is too strong so I kept coming back and came to stay,,hopefully a permanent resident. of the NA Fellowship.
Now getting to the question of acceptability among atheists; if stastics available at "recovery friends" is to be believed the atheists are put off from the 2nd Step onwards.
The point is that they shouldnt be excluded from recovery just because they dont believe in God.
Bill.W had suggested that they replace the word God with whatever they are comfortable with.
In NA,,,many of us believe God to be the Force that keeps us clean.
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